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PMI or Piggyback Mortgage (also known as an 80/20 or 80/10)?  

The most common alternative to paying Private Mortgage Insurance (PMI) is a piggyback mortgage where a borrower takes out both a first and a second mortgage rather than paying PMI. A description of a piggyback mortgage is at the end of this article.

Depending on your personal situation, either PMI or a piggyback mortgage may be the correct choice.

This article will assist you in determining which choice makes more sense for you, but to be sure you should consult a mortgage professional with the exact details of your personal situation to be sure you are making the right choice.

For a basic rule, (of course, nothing is basic or simple!)
  • if you are in a fixed rate, take the PMI.
  • If you will refinance or move in 5 years take the piggyback mortgage (80/20 or 80/10/10).
  • For the least expensive route, take a 5 year ARM 1st and 2nd piggyback. You can save thousands over the PMI payments, but it may cost in a higher interest rate later on.
The Advantages of PMI are:
  • PMI does stop or can be cancelled when the mortgage has been paid down See how to cancel PMI
  • The higher interest rate on the 2nd mortgage can continue on past the time the PMI will stop.
  • 2nd Mortgages can have balloon payments
  • 2nd mortgages can have adjustable rates
  • 2nd mortgage minimum payments can be interest only
  • A Home Equity Loan may not be available if there is already a 2nd mortgage

    The Advantages of a Piggyback Loan are:
  • the interest on the 2nd mortgage is deductible.
  • The total payment with a second mortgage is often less than a mortgage with PMI


  • When is PMI Best?
    For a borrower keeping a home for longer than 2-5 years.

    With a home that is increasing in value at 5% per year, the PMI can be cancelled after 2 years for someone who already put 10% down as long as the lender accepts the request. Read how to cancel PMI for the rules.

    For borrowers who only put 3% or 5% down, the time frame is still in the 5 year range, but for these borrowers it will be 4-5 years down the road or longer before they can cancel the PMI.

    My recomendation is that for borrowers who are not active in pursuing their mortgage opportunities, they go ahead and pay PMI. This option will cost you money, but save the possibility of higher rates.

    When is a Piggyback Loan Best?
    For borrowers keeping the home less than 5 years or with plans to refinance the loan for the purpose of taking cash out or adding to the home.

    Even after paying $1500 to refinance, this program is $6,000 to $8,000 cheaper than the PMI option over a 5 year period.

    If you are going to use this home as a step up house and sell it to move on to something bigger and better, take the piggyback and the tax advantages, no need for the PMI. Take the interest only 2nd mortgage, pay the least possible and avoid the PMI.

    Since the piggyback loan is best when used for about a 5 year period, seriously consider this piggyback loan as a 5 year ARM 1st mortgage and a 5 year ARM second mortgage. We offer a second mortgage for the 5 year ARM that is only 3/8% to 1/2% higher than the 1st mortgage. See example 1 for the comparison of savings using the 5 year ARM piggyback.

    The 5 year ARM program saves almost $1,300 per year on a $150,000 mortgage or a total of $6,500 after 5 years. Your tax savings from being able to deduct interest rather than pay PMI save another $400 to $800 per year depending on your tax bracket.

    My recomendation is that If you decide on the Piggyback 80/20 or 80/10/10, go into it expecting to refinance rather than keeping the 2nd mortgage the entire life of the second mortgage and take an ARM program rather than a fixed rate.

    What about Refinancing to Combine the 1st and 2nd Later on?
    One way to use the piggyback loan is to intend to refinance and combine the two loans later on. This is a popular method of saving money and as I have mentioned above, is the method I suggest for borrowers to take who are active in the pursuit of savings.

    Many mortgage professionals want to only talk about the thousands of savings that come in the first 5 years with this program, but let's be honest about this, your mortgage is not going to be paid off in 5 years unless you win the lottery! You need to have a plan.

    A very good method is to take the two 5 year ARM mortgages and then drop into a 20 year fixed to pay off the mortgage. Sure, 20 year payments are a little higher, but remember that the balance is lower after 5 years and your income will be higher.

    A plan that cuts off 5 years of payments is worth way more than any savings along the way.

    Even if rates went up 2% during the 5 years, this plan would save you about $20,000 of interest plus all the PMI premiums you have paid on a $180,000 mortgage.

    If interest rates went up over 3% this plan would cost you money.

    If that was the case, you would likely take another 5 year ARM package and wait until rates went down again to get the 20 year mortgage or maybe even a 15 year mortgage by then.


    Downsides to 80/20 and 80/10/10 Piggyback loans
    However, there are some possible downsides to this method. That the rates may be higher when you refinance is the number one downside. You may spend the entire savings on points buying the rate back down to where you are today.

    The other downside is that if you take a first and second mortgage and do not refinance, you will pay the higher interest rate on that second mortgage until it is paid off and that could be for 15 years! In this case you could pay many times more that it would have cost to just take the PMI.

    Do NOT take a piggyback mortgage just to save PMI and then never refinance unless you are paying extra on the second mortgage to get rid of it. PERIOD.

    With 10% Down
    In the example below with 10% down, I have shown an interest only second mortgage with the piggyback example to show that a 2 year savings would be about $1700.....hmmm just about the cost to refinance the loan, isn't it?

    If interest rates are higher in 2 years, the cost to refinance just for the purpose of combining the two loans is actually more expensive.

    With 10% down, it's a toss up, the costs are not much different and the PMI is definitely the simpler answer and leaves the door open for you to take a second mortgage or home equity loan.

    With 5% down
    In the example below with 5% down, the PMI payment is higher, but that interest rate on the second mortgage is higher too! With 5% down, it takes about 4 years for the house to increase in value enough to be able to cancel the PMI.

    I have shown an interest only second mortgage with the piggyback example to show that a 4 year savings would be about $2500.....hmmm... more that the cost to refinance the loan, isn't it?

    If interest rates are higher in 4 years, the cost to refinance just for the purpose of combining the two loans could be more expensive.

    With 5% down, the choice to take a piggyback loan is probably the more attractive choice although the savings from possible higher interest rates may cost you the savings down the road. A more conservative borrower may still decide to bite the bullet and pay the PMI payments just for simplicity.

    Comparing the Difference
    When comparing the two choices, the obvious answer of which one has the lowest payment is not always the choice that costs you the least amount of money in the long run.

    This is because the additional PMI payment stops when there is enough equity in the home, while the higher interest rate on that second mortgage will continue until the second mortgage is paid off either through refinancing or paying off the balance.

    You need to first consider how long you expect to be in the home and determine which makes more sense. Then you need to look at the worst case scenario, so that you will not be surprised if your situation changes.

    PMI
    Determine how many months till the balance is paid low enough to cancel the PMI and
    calculate the total cost of the PMI payments

    Piggyback
    Determine the difference between the 1st and 2nd mortgage versus the PMI mortgage without the PMI payment.

    Add to this the the tax savings from being able to deduct the interest on the 2nd mortgage.

    Savings Determination Scenario Assumptions
    Here is an actual scenario of a breakdown chart I complete for my clients. In this case, the Borrower has 700 credit scores, 10% down on a $200,000 home and the choices of paying PMI or having a piggyback mortgage. Tax savings are based on only a 15% tax bracket. Savings will be higher if you pay higher taxes.

    The 1st case shows a 30 year fixed compared to a 5 year ARM 1st and 2nd mortgage.

    I have also included the 2nd column where the borrower takes a higher interest rate and the Lender pays the MI just to show how even a half percent higher is actually a tax savings for the borrower.

    Both of the next two cases show a 30 year fixed rate loan compared to a 30 year fixed rate loan. The first is with 10% down and the second is with 5% down.

    Here is the scenario for the PMI versus the 5 year ARM 1st and 2nd
    5 years of pre tax savings at $1298.04 per year equals $6,490.20
    Less about $1500 to refinance and you still save almost $4500 over paying PMI

    Add in tax savings at the 15% tax bracket of another $400 per year and you save another $2,000

    This is my preferred choice for borrowers.

    Descriptions for 10% Down Borrower Paid PMI Lender Paid PMI Piggyback
    5 year ARM
    Mortgage
    First Loan Amount  $180,000.00  $180,000.00  $160,000.00 
    Second Loan Amount      $20,000.00 
    First Loan Interest Rate (%)  5.875%  5.875%  5.125% 
    Second Interest Rate (%)      5.500% 
    Tax Advantage Interest Rate (%)    6.375%   
    Monthly First P & I  $1,064.77  $1,122.97  $871.18 
    Monthly Second Payment      $113.56 
    Monthly MI Premium  $78.00     
    Pre-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,142.77  $1,122.97  $984.74 
    Estimated First Year Interest  $10,489.10  $11,415.48  $9.040.67 
    Estimated Monthly Interest Paid  $874.09  $951.29  $753.39 
    Estimated Monthly Tax Deduction  $131.11  $142.69  $113.01 
    Estimated After-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,011.66  $980.28  $871.73 
    MI Closing Costs  $78.00     
    First Year Pre-Tax Savings  $237.60  $1,298.04 
    First Year Tax Savings  $454.56  $1,679.16 



    Descriptions for 10% Down Borrower Paid PMI Lender Paid PMI Piggyback Mortgage
    First Loan Amount  $180,000.00  $180,000.00  $160,000.00 
    Second Loan Amount      $20,000.00 
    First Loan Interest Rate (%)  5.875%  5.875%  5.875% 
    Second Interest Rate (%)      8.125% 
    Tax Advantage Interest Rate (%)    6.375%   
    Monthly First P & I  $1,064.77  $1,122.97  $946.46 
    Monthly Interest Only Second Payment      $135.42 
    Monthly MI Premium  $78.00     
    Pre-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,142.77  $1,122.97  $1,081.88 
    Estimated First Year Interest  $10,489.10  $11,415.48  $10,971.45 
    Estimated Monthly Interest Paid  $874.09  $951.29  $914.29 
    Estimated Monthly Tax Deduction  $131.11  $142.69  $137.14 
    Estimated After-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,011.66  $980.28  $944.74 
    MI Closing Costs  $78.00     
    First Year Pre-Tax Savings  $237.60  $730.68 
    First Year Tax Savings  $454.56  $881.04 


    Descriptions for 5% down Borrower Paid MI Lender Paid MI Piggyback
    First Loan Amount  $190,000.00  $190,000.00  $160,000.00 
    HELOC or Second Loan Amount      $30,000.00 
    First Loan Interest Rate (%)  5.875%  5.875%  5.875% 
    HELOC or Second Interest Rate (%)      10.250% 
    Tax Advantage Interest Rate (%)    6.750%   
    Monthly First P & I  $1,123.92  $1,232.34  $946.46 
    Monthly Interest Only Second Payment      $256.25 
    Monthly MI Premium  $123.50     
    Pre-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,247.42  $1,232.34  $1,202.71 
    Estimated First Year Interest  $11,058.32  $12,763.11  $12,421.41 
    Estimated Monthly Interest Paid  $921.53  $1,063.59  $1,035.12 
    Estimated Monthly Tax Deduction  $138.23  $159.54  $155.27 
    Estimated After-Tax Monthly Payment  $1,109.19  $1,072.80  $1,047.44 
    MI Closing Costs  $123.50     
    First Year Pre-Tax Savings  $180.96  $536.52 
    First Year Tax Savings  $560.18  $864.50 



    What is a Piggyback Mortgage?
    A piggyback mortgage is when a 1st and 2nd mortgage are taken at the same time in a simutaneous closing. The 2nd mortgage is on top of (piggyback) the 1st mortgage and the downpayment or equity to make up the entire 100% of the value of the home.

    This avoids the cost of PMI because the first mortgage is only 80% and fits within conforming guidelines that do not require mortgage insurance on loans where there is a 20% downpayment.

    The second mortgage plus the downpayment that the borrower has available are combined to make up the remaining 20% of the value or purchase price of the home. This arrangement is valid even when both loans are with the same lender because the first mortgage can still be sold to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac as a "conforming" mortgage.

    These piggyback mortgages are often called